I wanna sunxipu

Creators: sheep_xiaoyang, Nikaple

Average Rating
5.5 / 10
Average Difficulty
58.1 / 100
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17 Reviews:

Yiaz
A game that tries to re-enact the sunspike formula of having 5 stages of needle followed by an avoidance. The needle is pretty easy for the most part. The first few stages also feel pretty nice to do and don't have many generic jumps. The further it goes however, the jumps get more and more generic and the game becomes less interesting. It's not too much of a problem though as the needle is really not that hard for the most part, and outside of two times in which the hitboxes felt off should be pretty doable. The avoidance on the other hand is quite terrible. It is nice looking and has production value for sure, the design of it is atrocous though. The first roughly 2 minutes are pretty easy ones you learn how to deal with the patterns and after that you actually have hard attacks that can also be unfair from time to time. They really stand out in a bad way since they make you redo the entire beginning in which you will after some time most likely not die anymore, just so you can die to the same attacks all over again at the end. It feels like an incredible waste of time and I don't know why those attacks at the end are the way they are. They don't feel balanced at all and really ruin this fight. Unless you don't mind replaying the boring first 2 minutes over and over or you really like the song or something, I would suggest not playing this.

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Rating: 2.5 25       Difficulty: 65 65
Dec 28, 2020
Nogard
Several stages of needle followed by an avoidance. It follows the same formula of Sunspike.

I think this game is greatly underrated.
I liked all the needle stages and I found the avoidance enjoyable, even though some people will find it too slow. My complaint is that a few parts of the avoidance can be unfair, a thing which really surprises me considering the attention to details in the rest of the game.
The part that impressed me the most and will go unnoticed by the majority of people is how the apple animation during the avoidance is synced with the beat.

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Rating: 7.2 72       Difficulty: 56 56
Jan 13, 2017
GaspacoZanis
Almost successful attempt to make an excellent sunspike-like fangame by pretty famous Chinese creators – Sheep and Nikaple.

Why almost? No, it is not because the game's structure is almost the same as in I wanna Sunspike. The reason is about execution at some point of the game. Game is built as a needle + avoidance adventure-like fangame. At some points game does better than original I wanna Sunspike, on others it does the opposite.

Sheep made a needle section. And it looks like Sheep wanted to remake I wanna Sunspike, but totally in his own style. Basically, imagine candy and a candy wrapper. The structure of the game is this candy wrapper, but the actual gameplay is candy itself. Sheep uses the same candy wrapper, but instead of Sunspike's offered 'candy', he offers different one to the player.

And it actually feels a little bit awkward, because it is exactly as if Sunspike offered a candy with a taste of a orange in orange candy wrapper, however, Sheep would pick this orange candy wrapper and put in it a peppermint. Yes, I like peppermint more than orange, but it is whimsical when instead of green candy wrapper you see an orange one.

With that I want to say that Sheep literally do everything as Sunbla. He picks 6 stages, from which each stage except the last one has a screen in which tileset is changed. Stage 1-3 is pretty eay and then on fourth level difficulty bumps slightly up, until its peak on the last 2 stages. Moreover, stage designs are also similar, for example, Stage 3 in I wanna sunxipu is very similar to Stage 3 in I wanna Sunspike. Stage 4 is not exactly the same, but has same sunspike vibes. Stage 5 is designed as small room with few jumps, differently styled saves and kid with an outline. Stage 5 momentarily goes to Stage 6 and to new soundtrack. And although Stage 6 has different style than I wanna Sunspike, you can still notice that many screens remind a little bit of original I wanna Sunspike (for instance, this screen –[url]https://youtu.be/4uMTa0rEIYs?t=493[/url]– reminds this screen from I wanna Sunspike –[url]https://youtu.be/KUeuUncswFw?t=506[/url]) . After all even the title's are similar – I wanna Sunspike and I wanna sunxipu. And I guess there are more similarities, which I have not mentioned.

Yet I am not about to criticize this game. In my opinion, Sheep did great job and made a better version of a needle of I wanna Sunspike. Yes, first 3 stages are pretty easy, but I like how Sheep tried even to change details of kid's sprite to match with the stage. In beach kid has a swimsuit, in forest he has a sunglasses (not sure exactly why kid decided to wear sunglasses in the woods, but I guess it is either to stay hidden or to look cool, maybe? Or simply there are too much of a sunlight). Needle can feel a little bit generic, however, if there are people who close eyes to original downside of I wanna Sunspike, then I do not see any reason why you shouldn't close eyes to this one too. And if you do care about unoriginality here, then I would like to tell that I do not care about this factor as far as game is fun to play, and for some reason it is fun in this case.

About stage 4 I can say that I do not have much of complaints and I actually liked many screens and saves. Especially this one I liked a lot to perform for some reason –[url]https://youtu.be/4uMTa0rEIYs?t=291[/url].

Stage 5 is the point where it is actually tricky. Making gameplay out of few jumps on screen is always a risk to make something too precise and unfun. Surprisingly, this stage was the point where I started to like the needle quite a lot. I liked almost every screen, except maybe for this jump –[url]https://youtu.be/4uMTa0rEIYs?t=387[/url]. It is actually pretty hard to perform, I have to say. Moreover, I am even surprised how fun you can execute generic jumps into something pretty original like in this example –[url]https://youtu.be/4uMTa0rEIYs?t=408[/url]. I have to say that I haven't seen much of these jumps. Balance is more or less flawless, maybe I have some questions, like why this jump seems so easy (or I was just lucky to pass it pretty fast?) – [url]https://youtu.be/4uMTa0rEIYs?t=399[/url] – as well as, I am not sure that taking idea from I wanna Sunspike about using small jumps very good. Well, at least I have acceptable keyboard, so I cannot complain much about it.

And then there is stage 6, which is... very beautiful. It is just: wow. Aesthetically pleasing visuals, incredible usage of Romanian soundtrack 'Ce frumosa e iubirea', which was such a surprise for me, because I didn't except any Eastern Europe soundtrack (with Eurovision vibes, to be honest) in Chinese game, but looks like this soundtrack was quite popular there. And gameplay's difficulty which actually does not go to the outer space like in I wanna Sunspike. It is the hardest needle in the game, but everything is totally bearable and acceptable. Besides many screens and jumps feel very fun. Even usage of 2 planes in a row does not feel frustrating, which is funny. And idea to reference to sunbla's needle with using third before the end screen (and even second to last screen usage of few jumps per save reminds of this –[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUeuUncswFw[/url]. And fact that both of these screen go right after in both games is just a genius move) is just fabulous, because it is executed in a more fun to play way. If there is a complaint from me then maybe only about this jump –[url]https://youtu.be/4uMTa0rEIYs?t=515[/url]– , because how you do it is quite unobvious and maneuver is a little bit 'sloppy' , but it isn't too bad, because stage 4 has harder and worse jumps (actually jump – in singular) .

I have played and cleared both I wanna Sunspike and I wanna sunxipu needle sections. And I cannot say that I was much ahead in I wanna sunxipu. I have beaten I wanna sunxipu needle in 2 hours and 43 minutes (no practice tools), while I wanna Sunspike took me 3 hours 52 minutes (with Jtool practice on some screens though) . But gameplay-wise I can say that I had a lot of fun with Sheep's needle. It was fun, and I had a good time. Also I think I would give it around 50 difficulty rating. And I should say that when I got to the avoidance, I thought that I will definitely give this game around 8 rating. And that is saying an avoidance player....

Unfortunately, I had a bad surprise. And no, I am not complaining that Nikaple didn't make an avoidance and its room like UltragamerxD. The problem is with the avoidance itself.

As you already guessed, this game has an avoidance with completely different style than in I wanna Sunspike. And it is true. I wanna sunxipu after needle section removes kid's outline and special type of save to casual type. Room and avoidance use inverted colours on blocks and fruits, but the song used is some Chinese disco song. To explain problems I would like to start that avoidance took me a little bit more than 7 hours, but with only 429 deaths on avoidance itself. And avoidance is around 3 minutes and 30 seconds long. Sadly this is one of those cases when author just didn't balance attacks well enough for avoidance to be enjoyable.

I will name the structure of the song and will give in square brackets the number for each section, to not repeat each sections name for hundreds of times. Basically, this avoidance consists of (approximate numbers) 30 seconds long introduction [1], then 15 seconds long first couplet [2], 15 seconds of chorus [3] and 20 seconds of interlude [4]. Then around 25 seconds second couplet [5], 35 seconds long second chorus [6], where basically is used doubling of the chorus. And then the final part (third chorus one degree higher?) 35 seconds long [7], and finally 20 seconds long outro [8].

If you want in short, then:

Section 1 - (pretty) Easy and fair RNG
Section 2 - (pretty) Easy to learn patterns
Section 3 - Pattern, which requires good sense of rhytm, but was easy for me
Section 4 - (pretty) Easy and fair RNG
Section 5 - (pretty) Easy to learn patterns followed by RNG, which is mostly fair, but which can give very difficult or even unfair situations. Requires good RNG reading.
Section 6 - Hard and unfair for the most part. Requires good RNG reading and good luck.
Section 7 – Difficult RNG, but is fair. With good RNG reading it is passable.
Section 8 - (pretty) Easy and fair RNG ?

As you can see the hardest stuff of the avoidance is at the end, but the easiest at the beginning. The problem is not in 'boring' intro (in fact, it is fitting). The problem is with a balance in later parts. I do not understand the end of section 5 and section 6. RNG can be so unfair that you won't be able to do anything. And it is not fun when avoidance demands you to do this – [url]https://youtu.be/z3ZMU8sIoWw?t=144[/url]. Moreover, why chorus 1 is pattern and chorus 2 random? Just because of RNG I had to rush, because of this moment, when fruits get bigger – [url]https://youtu.be/z3ZMU8sIoWw?t=129[/url]. I didn't find better strat, because jumping while being in the corner didn't seem to be working in many situations.

Of course, I liked a lot patterns and fair RNG parts. I would even say that the hard finale is fitting, except that dying on it after unfair part is very frustrating. I died 2 times in the beginning of Section 7, and was lucky enough to first try the biggest part of it. I am very unsure how hard it is to perform Chorus 1. I could do it very consistently, but that is just because I counted how many beats have passed and when I should jump (just follow Nogard moves –[url]https://youtu.be/z3ZMU8sIoWw?t=46[/url]). The only thing I could do consistently on second chorus is to perform correctly first jump, Prepare your jump on sixth beat after the chorus starts. Maybe it can seem pretty hard to get used to section 2 and 5 patterns, but believe me, those are flowers in comparison with RNG sections...

Anyway I do not want to say that I did not want to like this avoidance. In fact, it was the reason why I tried this avoidance. I adore these minimalistic visuals and effects (like moving screen, weird characters which are moving head in a beat and well-made background colour change in chorus parts). I agree with Nogard that fruit beats are so well synched that it is just amaizng! Yet I couldn't enjoy this avoidance as much as I expected. Replaying third part of avoidance literally every time was very frustrating. And idea is not bad for RNG sections. If Nikaple had made it a little bit more fair, then it would be excellent. Unfortunately, this is not a case. And I was extremely relieved when I had beaten this pretty advance in difficulty avoidance (at least, in my opinion).

After you beat avoidance there are no credits, but just clear screen, in which are mentioned creators of this game(thanks for that, or we wouldn't know who created avoidance, since originally Nikaple's name wasn't mentioned on delfruit (and on wiki too, as far as I know)).

Game took me slightly under 10 hours, although I expected for it to take under 5 hours. For some reason I really didn't expect that avoidance could have unfair RNG. Moreover, I would never think that this avoidance could be worse than needle section. Well, I guess Nikaple got inspired by I wanna Sunspike avoidance's unfairness (laugh out loud). If so, then he succeeded. Unfortunately, it was a mistake...

I do not have much more to say about this game. It had a huge potential, but avoidance ruined it to be excellent. It is still very good, but it is not incredible. I would highly recommend to try Sheep's section (unless you find it very generic), and would suggest Nikaple's area in case you are sure that you will be able to clear it fast enough to not get frustrated. If you are not so professional, like me, then maybe it is better to stop on avoidance? I guess it was case for Xplayerlol and I think it was a wise decision, to be honest. Anyway, knowing that many people nowadays play very good, I think you may not even notice problems, which I noticed.

In other words, depending on circumstances and your preferences, I would, paradoxically, both recommend and not recommend this game (mostly it depends on avoidance section). And that is in spite of my rating 7, which I still give because of the great needle stage, and lowered after clearing the avoidance.

P.S. And still, I think that this game is better than I wanna Sunspike, although I may change my opinion, since I haven't beaten original I wanna Sunspike yet.

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Tagged as: Needle Avoidance Outline Sunspike-like
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Rating: 7.0 70       Difficulty: 64 64
Jun 25, 2020
xva
needle was good, however this game contains one of the worst avoidances I've ever seen. the balancing is so atrocious that it's genuinely worth quitting once you get to the avoidance. don't waste your time with trying to beat it like I did

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Tagged as: Needle Avoidance Sunspike-like
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Rating: 3.0 30       Difficulty: 55 55
Oct 7, 2023
Gaborro
Decently fun sunspike-style game; the needle doesn't flow and play as memorable as sunspike's but I think it does not have some of the annoying peaks sunspike had, so this might be some kind of improvement on the genre, not exactly sure.

The boss is where I feel a bit weird; I think this boss is fun and the sync with the song is pretty good. When I first saw this boss I thought to myself "this looks a lot more fair than the sunspike boss, this seems way more balanced" and then I grinded it and while it was easier I was still wrong somehow. The RNG in this game is just sometimes really rough, even more than the sunspike final boss and in multiple spots, so I actually got annoyed by the end of it.

I would still recommend giving it a try.

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Rating: 7.0 70       Difficulty: 65 65
May 28, 2022